Samsung Q80T vs Q80R Review (QN55Q80T vs QN55Q80R, QN65Q80T vs QN65Q80R, QN75Q80T vs QN75Q80R, QN85Q80T vs QN85Q80R)
Samsung Q80T and Q80R are part of the Samsung QLED TV Q80 Series. The Samsung Q80R is the 2019 model while the Q80T is the 2020 model. You need to know, in 2020, Samsung has downgraded the performance and features of their 2020 lineup over the 2019 lineup. This means, even though the Q80T is the successor of the Q80R, but it seems its performance is worse than the predecessors and tends to be similar to the Q70R. Nevertheless, ignoring this issue and even though its performance is not as good as the predecessor, in its class, the Q80T is a great TVs for most usage.
In the market, the Samsung Q80R comes in 4 screen sizes available. On the other hand, in addition the screen sizes found on the Q80R (QN55Q80T vs QN55Q80R, QN65Q80T vs QN65Q80R, QN75Q80T vs QN75Q80R, QN85Q80T vs QN85Q80R), the Q80T is also available in 49 Inches (QN49Q80T). Special for the 49 inches model of the Q80T (QN49Q80T), it comes with lower specs than the bigger. So, this comparison refers to their 55 inches model or bigger. So, what are their differences and is it true that the Q80T is not as good as the Q80R?
Samsung Q80T and Q80R Key Specification
|Technology and Features||Samsung Q80T||Samsung Q80R|
|Screen Size Available||49 Inches (QN49Q80TAFXZA), 55 Inches (QN55Q80TAFXZA), 65 Inches (QN65Q80TAFXZA), 75 Inches (QN75Q80TAFXZA), and 85 Inches (QN85Q80TAFXZA),||55 Inches (QN55Q80R), 65 Inches (QN65Q80R), 75 Inches (QN75Q80R)|
|Resolution||4K (3840 x 2160)||4K (3840 x 2160)|
|Panel Technology||VA Panel||VA Panel|
|Backlight Technology||Direct LED||Direct LED|
|Local Dimming Technology||Yes (Direct Full Array 12X), 49 Inches (Direct Full Array 8X)||Full Array Local Dimming (Direct Full Array 8x)|
|Ultra Viewing Angle||Yes , QN49Q80T: No||Yes|
|Processor||Quantum Processor 4K||Quantum Processor 4K|
|HDR Numerical Index||Quantum HDR 12x, QN49Q80T : Quantum HDR 8x||Quantum HDR 12X|
|HDR Supports||HDR10, HLG, HDR10+||HDR10 (Static), HLG, HDR10+ (Dynamic)|
|Color Technology||Quantum Dot||Quantum Dot|
|Up-Scaling Engine||4K AI Up-Scaling||4K AI Up-Scaling|
|Motion Technology||Motion Rate 240, QN49Q80T: Motion Rate 120||Motion Rate 120|
|Native Refresh Panel||120 Hz, 49 inches : 60 Hz||120 Hz|
|Variable Refresh Rate||Yes (FreeSync, HDMI Forum), QN49Q80T: No||Yes (FreeSync)|
|Smart TV Platform||Tizen 2020||Tizen 2019|
|Processor||Quad Core||Quad Core|
|Support Google Assistant||Yes||Yes|
|Support Amazon Alexa||Yes||Yes|
|Speaker Channel||2.2.2, QN49Q80T: 2.2||4.1|
|Total Sound Output||60 watts, QN49Q80T 40 watts||40 watts|
|HDMI Supports||HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, HDMI 2.1, CEC, HDCP 2.2, HDMI 2.1||HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, CEC, HDCP 2.2|
|Price||See the price on Amazon||See the price on Amazon|
Technology and Features of the Samsung Q80T and Q80R
Just like other models of Samsung TV Lineup, the Samsung Q80R and Q80T both use VA (Vertical Alignment) panel technology. And we might have known, the TV that uses VAs panel usually have excellent native contrast ratio. But on the other hand, their side viewing angle is poor. Nevertheless, this is not as true them. Since their panel has anti glare optical layer called “Ultra Viewing Angle”, this technologies makes both of them have much better viewing angle than TVs with standard VA panel. The use of “Ultra Viewing Angle” actually a bit reduces their contrast ratio and color gamut, but in general, they both still have excellent native contrast ratio and wide color gamut. Meanwhile, with the support of Quantum Dot technology, this allows them can deliver wide color gamut.
The Samsung Q80T and Q80T also use the same backlight technology, which is Direct LED backlight. Additionally, they both also have full array local dimming feature with market name “Direct Full Array”. And as we see on comparison table above, except the 49 inches model of the Q80T (QN49Q80T), the Samsung Q80T is powered by Direct Full Array 12X while the Q80R is powered by Direct Full Array 8X. But unfortunately, we don’t know for sure the number of dimming zones of their local dimming. But even so, with higher level of Direct Full Array technology, the Q80T should have more dimming zones than the Q80R.
Both of the Samsung Q80R and Q80T are also powered by the same images processor, which Quantum Processor 4K. This images processor already has AI algorithm, allows both of them have some AI-related features such as Adaptive Brightness, and Adaptive Sound, and Adaptive Volume. These AI-related features can automatically set their picture parameter to suit the room where they are used. Additionally, additionally, this also allows their 4K Up-scaling engine based AI have AI based Algorithm. And since their up-scaling engine have based AI, excepted, 4K up-scaled picture that produced is better with less loss of fine details than conventional 4K up-scaling engine.
Except the 49 inches model of the Q80T (QN49Q80T), the Samsung Q80T and Q80R have the same motion technology. They both have an optional BFI (Black Frame Insertion) mode or called Motion Rate 240 Hz. Additionally, they both also have native 120 Hz refresh rate panel, makes them support any content with frame rate up to 120 Hz or allow them to interpolate low frame rate content up to 120 Hz. In addition to native refresh rate, they both also already support VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) panel technology that can improve their gaming experience. The difference, the VRR of the Q80T is compatible with FreeSync and HDMI Forum, while the Q80R is only compatible with FreeSync. But even so, they both don’t support NVidia GSync yet.
Basically, to dim their backlight, both of the Samsung Q80R and Q80T use PWM (Pulse Width Dimming) System. In most mode picture mode, they both have 960 Hz of dimming frequency. With PWM Dimming system, this may make their backlight is not flicker-free. But since their dimming frequency is extremely high, their backlight flicker should not be noticeable for most people. But just we have mentioned above, they both have an optional Black Frame Insertion (BFI) mode that can change their dimming frequency to 60 Hz and 120 Hz. On the Q80R, set Auto Motion Plus to “Custom” or “Auto” will make changes its dimming frequency to 120 Hz. Additionally, set the picture mode to “Natural”, Standard, PC, “Dynamic” and “Game” also will change its dimming frequency to 120 HZ. Furthermore, enabling the “LED Clear Motion” will further reduce its dimming frequency to 60 Hz.
Meanwhile, on Q80T, set the “Picture Clarity” to “Auto” or “Custom” will change their dimming frequency to 120 Hz. Just like the Q80R, set the picture mode to “Natural”, Standard, PC, “Dynamic” and “Game” will also change its dimming frequency to 120 Hz. And lastly, to enable its 60 Hz BFI mode, you just need to set on “LED Clear Motion”.
As their major connectivity, both of the Samsun Q80R and Q80T have 4 HDMI ports where all of their HDMI ports support HDCP 2.2, CEC, and HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth. Meanwhile, one of their HDMI ports (HDMI 3) also already support (ARC Audio Return Channel). Meanwhile, that makes them is the supports of eARC (enhanced Audio Return Channel) and HDMI 2.1. You need to know, the Q80R doesn’t support eARC and HDMI 2.1 while the Q80T already support these features. But for a while, there is only 1 port that supports HDMI 2.1, which is HDMI 4.Additionally, their HDMI ports also supports most resolution on both 60 Hz and 120 Hz.
In addition to HDMI ports, they both have 2 USB ports. However, all of them are USB 2.0 and none of them are USB 3.0. Additionally, they both also have 1 RF In (Tuner In), Ethernet Port, and Digital Audio Out (Optical). They both also have built-in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth for wireless connection. Nevertheless, they both don’t have Component In and Composite In.
Smart TV Platform
As their Smart TV platform the Samsung Q80T runs Tizen OS 2020 version while the Q80R runs Tizen OS 2019 Version. There are not many changes offered by the 2010 version over the 2019 version. In general, their smart TV platforms has intuitive and attractive layout and the operation is very smooth and easy to use. Additionally, they both also a lot of attractive pre-installed apps you just simply use like YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Web Browser, Games, and others. In addition to pre-installed apps, they both also have an apps store called Samsung Apps Store that has great selections of apps and a large number of streaming service. Their smart TV also already supports some AI Related Features likes Smart Things, Amazon Alexa, Google Home, etc. And to make navigation easier, it also has built-in voice navigation that powered by Samsung’s Bixby.
As the controller, the Samsung Q80R comes with TM-1950C remote while the Q80T comes with TM2050C remote. At a glance, their remote is similar. Their remote is small and only has few buttons. Their remote also have built-in microphone for voice navigation that has many features of voice command. They both also have Samsung’s One Remote Features. With this feature, this makes them can act as universal remote, allows you to control other devices with a single Samsung remote. This can control not only HDMI CEC devices, but other device that don’t support HDMI CEC. But of course, since it works over IR connection, it requires direct line of the sight to the TV. Meanwhile, a bit difference between them, if on the 2019 model, there is a dedicated buttons for Hulu, on the 2020 model, the function of this button has been changed for Samsung’s TV apps.
Samsung Q80T vs Q80R Performance
Black Level and Contrast
Both of the Samsung Q80T and Q80R have great native contrast ratio, which is around 3000:1 for the Q80T and around 3500:1 for the Q80R. Their native contrast ratio is actually underperforming among TV with VA panel. Fortunately, they both also have local dimming feature that can improve their contrast ratio to around 4000:1 for the Q80T and around 5500:1 for the Q80R. The result, they can produce very deep black. Even in a dark room where the impact of contrast ratio is very sensitive, black produced by them still look really black. With HDR content, black produced by them is deep enough to reveal details, makes shadow details can be shown excellently the way they should in HDR. In addition to improve their contrast ratio, their local dimming feature is also very effective to reduce blooming around highlight, make subtitle in movies look well and clearly on their screen.
Meanwhile, compare between them, the Q80R is better than the successor Q80T. In addition it has strong native contrast ratio, the local dimming feature of the Q80R can also work better than the Q80T in improving contrast ratio and reducing blooming.
With SDR content, both of the Samsung Q80R has brighter peak brightness than the Q80T. But even so, since they both have local dimming feature, their peak brightness is depending on the content. They both reach their brightness peak brightness equally in 10% window, where the Q80R hit around 950 nits while the Q80T hit around 7000 nits. Meanwhile, the dimmest peak brightness is reached by them on 100% window, where the Q80R hit around 550 nits while the Q80T hit around 400 nits. And in general, with real SDR content, the Q80R reach around 700 nits while the Q80T hit around 400 nits. Since the Q80R can show brighter, in very bright room, the picture displayed on its screen will look more obviously than the Q80T. Nevertheless, even though not as bright as the Q80R, SDR peak brightness of the Q80T is fairly excellent, allows you to watch TV in most bright rooms without any serious issues.
HDR Peak Brightness
With HDR content, both of them can reach brighter peak brightness than when showing SDR content and that was as expected. But just like with SDR content, their HDR peak brightness is also depending on the content. On 10% window where they hit their peak brightness, the Q80R can hit around 110 nits while the Q80T hit around 950 nits. Meanwhile, on 100 % window where they hits their dimmest peak brightness, the Q80R even can still reach around 650 nits while the Q80T hit around 450 nits only. This means, the Q80R can show much brighter HDR images than the Q80T. Even in certain scenes, it can show highlight brighter than 1000 nits, makes highlight pops the way that is expected in HDR. On the other hand, HDR peak brightness of the Q80T may be not as bright as the Q80T. But at least, in most bright rooms, HDR images displayed on its screen look fairly bright. Additionally, highlight can also pop the way they should in HDR.
The Samsung Q80R has a bit wider color gamut than the Q80T. But in general, their color gamut is equally excellent. In the DCI P3 where colors of HDR 10 and HDR10+ that used by most of HDR content, the Samsung Q80R can cover around 94% of DCI P3 uv and 90% of DCI P3 x while the Q90T is around 92% of DCI P3 Uv and 83% of DCI P3 xy. This certainly makes most colors of HDR content can be shown fairly accurate on their screen. IN addition wide color gamut, they both also have good color volume. Since they both have good contrast ratio, they both can produce deep saturated colors fairly well. Additionally, most of bright saturated colors also can be shown correctly, except very bright blues. As we have known, as typical of LED TVs, the Samsung Q80T and Q80R cannot produce very bright blues. But in general, most colors of HDR images can be shown fairly accurate, makes HDR images displayed on their screen look colorfully.
Meanwhile, discussing about their color gradient, they both great color gradient and their color gradient is almost similar. In almost all dark shades of colors, some fine banding may be still a bit noticeable, but in normal content, this should be hard to notice for most people. And overall, color gradient of HDR images looks very smooth on their screen. But even so, if you still feel the banding bother you, both of them have a feature that can be used to reduce the banding. On the Samsung Q80R, you can set “Digital Clean View” to “Auto” while on the Q80T, you can enable “Noise Reduction” on the “Picture Clarity” setting. But keep in mind, makes these settings may make banding can be reduced, but on the other hand, this will cause some loss of fine details in certain scenes.
Side Viewing Angle
As we have a bit mentioned above, the panel of the Samsung Q80T and Q80R have an additional antiglare optical layer called “Ultra Viewing Angle”. The use of this optical layer may make their native contrast ratio and color gamut is reduced, but on the other hand, this can improve their side viewing angle. The result, the side viewing angle coverage of the Samsung Q80R and Q80T is better than most LED TVs that use conventional VA panel. If on the screen of a TV with conventional panel, black level usually rise started at around 15 degrees, on their screen, black level can be maintained up to around 30 degrees. Additionally, the color accuracy also can be maintained at wider angle, which at around 40 degrees. And lastly, this optical layer also can maintain their peak brightness up to around 45 degrees, while on the conventional VA TVs, the brightness of the picture displayed on their screen usually start to drop around 30 degrees.
The Samsung Q80T has a bit faster pixel response time than the Q80R. If the pixel response time of the Samsung Q80R is around 10 ms, the pixel response time of the Q80T is around 10 ms. However, their difference doesn’t have a significant impact and in general, their pixel response time is equally great. The result, when they are playing fast paced images like fast movies or fast sports, fast scenes looks very smooth with only a shorting ghosting trail following fast moving object. But even so, for most people, this should not be noticeable. Meanwhile, blur that may be visible is more caused by persistence or duplication. But as we have mentioned above, both of them have an optional 120 Hz and 60 Hz Black Frame Insertion BFI) mode that can reduce blur persistence blur. But keep in mind, enable their BFI mode will cause their backlight flicker change to 120 Hz or 60 Hz. This may make motion smoother, but on the other hand, this will cause their backlight flicker is noticeable for most people, particularly for them who sensitive to flicker.
Both Samsung Q80T and Q80R are also good performers in handling 24p judder. Regardless they source of movies, whether it is native 24p movies like Blu-Ray or DVD movies, 24p movies via 60i signal like movies from satellite TV, 24p movies via 60p signal like movies from streaming devices, or 24p movies from native Apps like Netflix, Amazon Videos, and others, all of them looks smoothly with judder-free on their screen. To remove the judder, on the Q80T you just need set “Picture Clarity” to “Custom” and both “Judder Reduction” and “Blur Reduction” to “0”. Meanwhile, on the Q80R, you just need to set “Auto Motion Plus” to custom and leave both sliders to “0”.
A bit improvement offered by the Samsung Q80T over the Q80R predecessor is on input lags in Game Mode. With 60 fps content, regardless the resolution, the input lags of the Samsung Q80R is around 15 ms while the input lags of the Q80T is around 10 ms. Additionally, with 120 fps content, the Q80T also has a bit lower input lags, which is around 5 ms on both 1080p and 1440p resolution, while the input lags of the Q80R at 120 Hz are around 6 ms on both 1080p and 1440p resolution. In VRR mode, the input lags of the Samsung Q80R and Q80T are also great. On both 1080p and 1440p resolution, their input lags are around 6.5 ms while on 4K resolution, their input lag is around 15 ms. With their extremely low input lags, can be ascertained, they both are equally very responsive for any games, even for fast paced games that requires fast reflexes. But even so, since the input lags of the Q80T is a bit lower, of course when used for playing 60 fps games, it is also a bit more responsive than the Q80R.
For Watching Movies
Both of the Samsung Q80T and Q80R are great TVs for watching movies. They both have good native contrast ratio that makes them can produce deep black. Combination of their good black uniformity certainly makes black of images can be shown excellently on their screen, even when they are set in a dark room. Additionally, they both also have good local dimming feature that can improve their performance in a dark room. They both are also good performers in handling 24p judder, allow you to watch movies with judder free. And combination of their color gamut and good peak brightness makes movies looks excellently on their screen. Additionally, subtitle also looks well due to the good performance of their local dimming features. And since the performance of the Q80R is better almost in all aspects like black level, color gamut, peak brightness, local dimming feature, etc, of course, this certainly makes the Q80R is better than Q80T when used for watching movies in a dark room. On the other hand, although not as good as the Q80R, performance of the Q80T is also great for its class.
For Watching Sports
Both of the Samsung Q80R and Q80T are also great TVs for watching sports in most bright rooms. They both have good SDR peak brightness and combined to their good reflection handling, this allow you to watch sports in most bright rooms without any issue. Additionally, their fast pixel response time also makes fast sports looks smoothly on their screen. And lastly, with their good side viewing angle, this ensures all of you to get the best viewing when watching a big game with a group of your family or friend. Meanwhile, compare between them, the Q80T is a bit better in pixel response time that makes motion looks a bit smoother on its screen. On the other hand, the Q80R is superior in very bright room due to it has brighter SDR pea brightness.
For Video Games
When used for playing video games, performance of the Samsung Q80R and Q80T are also great. In addition they both have excellent picture quality and great pixel response time, they both also have excellent input lags in any resolution on both 120 Hz and 60 Hz. This allows you to play any games responsively with good picture quality. Additionally, when you are playing multiplayer games with a group of your family or friend, their good viewing angle also ensures all of you to get the best viewing. Not only that, except the 49 inches model of the Q80T (QN49Q80T), they both already support VRR technology that allows you to play games without screen tearing effect. The support of ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) also allows you to play games without manually change their picture mode to “Game”. And since the Q80T has lower input lags on 60 Hz, it is a bit responsive than the Q80R, particularly when used for playing 60 fps games.
Both of the Samsung Q80T and Q80R are equally good performer for HDR experience. They both can produce deep dark, makes shadow details of HDR images can be shown excellently like the expected in HDR. Their wide color gamut, good color volume, and great color gradient also allow you to watch HDR content with very accurate color and smooth color gradient. Meanwhile, their difference in performing HDR content is on their peak brightness. The Q80R has great HDR Peak brightness, even when you set it in a very bright room. In certain scenes, it can even show small highlight brighter than 1000 nits, which means it is great. On the other hand, although the peak brightness of the Q80T is not as bright as the predecessor, but HDR images displayed on its screen still looks fairly bright in most bright room. Additionally, it is also able to show HDR images with highlight that pops.
|Performance||Samsung Q80T||Samsung Q80R|
As we have discussed a lot above, about what are influenced by their panel like local dimming features, peak brightness, etc, performance of the Samsung Q80R is better than the Q80T. On the other hand, the Q80T is better on the aspects that influenced by their image processor like input lags and others. Overall, in most usage, the performance and picture quality of the Q80T is not as good as the predecessor. But in certain usage, the Q80T is better than Q80R like for games. Which is a better choice between them? The decision certainly comes back to according to your main purpose in buying TV.